In other business Monday, 3rd Ward Alderman Keith Meyer made a motion to ask i wireless Center officials to not reschedule a concert by T.I., a rapper whose Sunday night show was canceled at the last minute because the artist was arrested on weapons charges in Atlanta.
Bettendorf and Davenport police ended up breaking up a fight between unhappy concert-goers who ended up outside Penguins Comedy Club near the Isle of Capri Bettendorf early Monday.
I pretty much have to agree with him on this particular item. If a non-celebrity was charged with this stuff, the QC area wouldn't be welcoming them back with open arms. What good does a person like this bring to the community?
I don't know if its Davenport's place to ask the i wireless Center not to reschedule the concert, but I hope that Moline or the iwC itself makes that smart decision. Considering how much security they had for the Trans Siberian Orchestra concert last January, I can't even begin to imagine how much they would need for the T.I. concert. In addition to patting down attendees, they'd have to check the performer as well.
Another unfortunate piece of info out of this is that Penguins, where the after-non-concert party/fight ended up, is the comedy club that's moving into the Freight House this winter. Hopefully they can keep stuff like this from happening.
Also, how did the people that showed up at the iwC for the concert not hear or read any news in the preceding days? I guess as a news junkie, I can't understand people who are that out of touch with current news.
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I don't want to steal the thunder from Alderman Meyer, and I agree that placing his statements under the title of rent to own is a bit bizzare. But, the important thing about this is that First Financial voluntarily agreed to put its properties back up for inspection until a compromise could be reached.
I think I'm officially "old" now. I've never heard of "T.I.," and this is coming from someone with a collection of a lot of hip hop albums. ah well.
Who cares Dan!
I think it is important because it shows a spirit of cooperation between the contract sellers and the City staff.
I think the whole QCT article was kind of a bitch slap to Alderman Meyer. SO I guess they are in the supporting role of Bill Bloom.
I have never seen an article, that outlined one aldermans motion, and summarized the 2 hour meeting was help up by Alderman Meyer...
I guess the QCT reporter and other alderman were in a hurry to get down to MAC's or where ever they go to drink it up...
The only contract seller insterested is Dan Lubell and his boyfriend Vesole. That's it. They need to stop beingnegative campaigners and start working on thier public image. Lubell doesn't live in Davenport and he is the minority. The council needs to start looking after the community better and rid themselves of this Lubell guy.
I agree with Meyer. Why bring that kind of act to our area? It's not needed. I can't imagine there could be enough security for it.
And like Matt, I must be getting old...
I agree with QCI, Snarky, and Kieth. It is time for whole communities to stand up against the gang/drug/violence crowd and this includes the hip hop acts that glorify and promote it!
What country are guys (QCI, Snarky, and Kieth) living in? I can't stand these so called "rap artist" any more than the next "mature" person, but does that give me the right to say ban them? Hey, I don't like country music any better than rap. Ban country music from the QCA.
I'm not trying to ban their music, but the iwC doesn't have to let hardcore criminals play there.
Maybe the iwC could team up with police to have a sting the next time T.I. comes to town.
Hey, lets ban "T.I." because lots of my friends don't like that kind of music and the people it attracts...
And let's damn that liberal college for inviting that "towel head" Ahmadinejad to speak... My friends don't like "towel head terrorist"....
And let's ask iwC to cancel that Hannah Montana concert. We are all mad, because we couldn't get tickets for our kids. Big corporate greed stepped in, and sucked up all the tickets. If we, "every day Davenporters" can't go, no one should....
Yep, Keith is right. We need to let these law breaking, sinful people know up front they ain't welcome here....
And on another topic, did anyone get that Co-excistance billboard kind of art thing they had down on the river?
I sure didn't. Well go Keith go. Your my kind of man!
Do you not understand that when a person is buying fully automatic weapons and silencers while a felon that he is not a person to bring to your community? This has NOTHING to do with banning music.
Or are you accusing me of being a conservative now?
Yeah, I see nothing wrong with saying active criminals are not welcome in our community.
I disagree, you would have to ban the Rolling Stones, Motley Crue and others for glorying excessive hard core drug use i.e. heroin and cocaine. This is a free country, and as long as they are free they can perform.
--winding hills
Winding hills, you don't see a difference between glorifying violence, buying guns & silencers and taking drugs?
Just to clarify. I made the motion regarding T.I, after, i Wireless announced that ticket holders should hold on to their tickets because the concert would be rescheduled. The motion was a symbolic gesture.
Perhaps if iWireless does reschedule the concert it could also do a gun buy back with a double payment for machine guns.
Keith
I think WindingHills (welcome back?) makes an interesting point. While yes, Uzis are worse than heroin, why do we look the other way on stuff just because they're famous? If instead of famous rapper, TI, it was just some random QC gang member, people wouldn't think twice about not wanting them in the area. If I said a heavy drug user was coming here it would be bad, unless its a musician?
When concerts come here that generally don't hit areas our size, I'm usually proud, even if I don't personally like the music. That was true in this case as well, but after the incident at Penguins I somewhat changed my tune. This guy seems to inspire violence when he doesn't even show up.
Call me crazy, but I think a society should hold its entertainers to a much higher standard than we do. I, for one, would like to see all criminals lose their audiences-whether those crimes are "just drugs" or violent. Maybe if their ticket and record sales dropped after a run-in with the law rather than increasing, there would be fewer incidents in the first place!
I see Phil Yerrington finally submitted his financial reports. Due on the 4th, submitted on the 15th....
And QCI - Are you Phils treasure???
i'm still thinking about hip-hop in general, and what happened to the fun stuff i grew up with in the 80s. a lot of comments below the Times' articles on this recent story are painting the music genre with a very wide brush, and that's too bad. i wish the self-policing artists with positive messages were more well known. it's sad... i suppose eMpTyV still loves to push the stuff that turns kids into morons.
the other morning i was listening to something by Mos Def that made me smile. i'm no theist, but i love the intro to this song. (i apologize, QCI, for i really should be cuttin-and-pasting verbose stuff this on my own site).
Listen.. people be askin me all the time, "Yo Mos, what's gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?" (Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?) I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with Hip-Hop? Whatever's happening with us" If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out. If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright. People talk about Hip-Hop like it's some giant livin in the hillside, comin down to visit the townspeople. We. Are. Hip. Hop. Me, you, everybody; we are Hip-Hop. So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin.
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin, ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin? Til you get a clear idea .So.. if Hip-Hop is about the people, and Hip-Hop won't get better until the people get better, then how do people get better? (Hmmmm...) Well, from my understanding people get better when they start to understand that, they are valuable. And they not valuable because they got a whole lot of money, or cause somebody think they sexy, but they valuable ‘cause they been created by God And God, makes you valuable And whether or not you, recognize that value is one thing.
I know what you mean Matt. I think condemning rap and hip-hop as a whole is really stretching the issue. I remember when I went clubbing they were able to play hip-hop all night without any of the gangster/violent junk you hear frequently today.
I am an old lady and in my day we were all going to Hell for watching and listening to Elvis. the final decision isn't in yet so I may still end up in Hell but if I do, I swear Elvis had nothing to do with it. Please lets not censor our music, our books or our plays. We can make sure we control what our children listen to but we need to keep freedom in our lives. More and more the government is taking control of our lives.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? I don't think we have any business requesting someone not come to entertain us in the QCA until they are proven guilty of the crime they are charged with.
Maybe if T.I. does come to town he'll bring his buddy Michael Vick.
At least the NFL had enough sense to do damage control by pulling his merchandise from shelves. Why shouldn't the same thing happen to T.I.
The drugs are what leads to the lack of African American families, which then leads to the violence in these communities, so yes I think condoning heavy drug use is worse than illegal possession of a weapon. The right to bear arms is in the constitution, but the right to illegal drugs is not.
Check out Bill Cosby on Meet the Press this past weekend: http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/24774/
--winding hills
I don't think FF has a choice so voluntary is like pretending it's a parade as they run you out of town. Plus NEO is so backed up it's not like any FF places will make it to inspection any time soon.
I see someone else noticed the QC Times editorializing in the form of "news" by listing all of Meyer's meeting stupidity. Frankly I think it would be great if they'd do that all the time with ALL of the alderman's stupid comments. If they did that regularly for two years more people would vote out the idiots that are sitting in those seats.
Yes, Meyer comes up with some good ones. But Lynn, Ambrose and Barnhill do a great job sounding like morons too on a regular basis. The others all have their moments of stupidity too. So, QC Times keep up the good work but please make sure you include ALL of the stupidity that is our public meetings not just one aldermen you don't particularly like.
Oh - and did anyone else catch the other QC Times subtle editorializing on the same page a bit lower and to the right? It was in the form of their "corrections" where they noted that they were wrong about Lubell heading up the landlord's group that did the autodialing and quoted QCRPA's indignant claim that their bylaws do not allow them to be involved in politics. Followed by the Times comments outlining that all the board members of the autodialing "pac" were also board members and officers of QCRPA. I'm sure that's just a "coincidence." Seems to me someone needs to have their 501c looked into. Anyone out there from the IRS interested??
Anyway, best page of writing I've seen by the times in awhile!
And Ald. Meyer - best comment I've heard in awhile (about the gun buyback) - ROFLMA : )
Hey Gina, thanks for the insight but FF did have a choice. There were not enough aldermen to go along with the repeal, but FF wanted to work with the neighbors and get rid of the bs about this ordinance which is not true. You are right, FF has had most of their properties inspected anyway (with almost perfect results by the way) and so not many are due for reinspection for awhile.
The Times did make a report about how QCRPA and the PAC are different, and trust me, I don't head up the QCRPA. We have 200+ members, many of whom may not agree with the politics of the PAC. So, an IRS audit would turn up nothing, because they truly are seperate entities.
Sorry, this is Dan Lubell in the previous post.
Dan, just go away.
Dan, how do you get away with the sloppy reporting to the Iowa Ethics Committee? If you look at the reports even child could see that the reports are full of phoney. Someone needs to challenge the Ethics committee on their oversite.
Just remember folks, any rental property file is public information. If you want to see these perfect inspections, go to the CSD and ask for them. They will also make copies for you too.
Thanks Dan you pathetic turdell. Yes - I said Turdell.
One of the things I most hate is people who are on my "side" of an argument making completely foolish arguments. Why don't we leave the stupid stuff (like some of these last few comments) for the stupid people.
Only morons belive what the Times prints, Gina.
Thanks Keith for the last comment, You can't stand that the QCT is not your cheerleader such is the RC READER, and the Daily Disgrace...oops, I meant Dispatch.
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